tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post1437357013826124946..comments2024-03-25T12:55:40.911+00:00Comments on Caron's Musings: Did I miss Labour's Holyrood Democracy Riots?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-17704071794346205242010-05-17T11:45:47.765+01:002010-05-17T11:45:47.765+01:00How can you possibly accuse Tom of conflating the ...How can you possibly accuse Tom of conflating the two, Scott, when his comment explicitly referred to "a dissolution vote"? <br /><br />Have you so convinced yourself that opposition to 55% is based solely on conflating no confidence with dissolution that you are failing even to register the fact that at least some of its opponents do <b>not</b> conflate them?Carl Gardnerhttp://www.headoflegal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-85659927925139931262010-05-15T20:42:12.423+01:002010-05-15T20:42:12.423+01:00Tom Harris again fails to draw the distinction bet...Tom Harris again fails to draw the distinction between a confidence vote and a dissolution vote - a necessary consequence of fixed term parliaments (the issue discussed on my blog post that you link to). Cameron loses a confidence vote and then we could have a rainbow coalition as alternative government until the end of the fixed term (but of course we know Mr Harris is very much against that).<br /><br />There are grounds to criticise 55%, there is an obvious necessity to seek clarification as to whether an equivalent to s 3 of the Scotland Act is intended. This conflation of two separate and unrelated concepts as Mr Harris does - despite the point having been made again and again that the two are separate (including in one blog post by sir George Young yesterday) - is not one of them.Scott @ loveandgarbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057169237461813713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-17309544715715737552010-05-15T19:33:20.442+01:002010-05-15T19:33:20.442+01:00For the Scottish parliament, which has a similar s...For the Scottish parliament, which has a similar system, the percentage required is 66%. So the 55% required is actually quite modest.<br /><br />Isn't it right that Parliament is the ultimate sovereign body and not the executive?Martin Vearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03836538893598716215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-71684504960467123162010-05-15T18:02:49.734+01:002010-05-15T18:02:49.734+01:00Caron - Surely even you must think that it's a...Caron - Surely even you must think that it's a bit suspect to change the rules so that if the LibDems walk, it leaves Cameron with just enough MPs to resist a dissolution vote, even though the current rules would force an election in those circumstances?<br /><br />And your lot and Clegg are falling for it!Tom Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07558668466362429378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-11275100478460680852010-05-15T17:46:11.018+01:002010-05-15T17:46:11.018+01:00I guess Labour is relishing the opportunity to act...I guess Labour is relishing the opportunity to actually be on the right side of one of their precious dividing lines, for a change.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15252054403352395221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-26054836295214431762010-05-15T17:25:07.574+01:002010-05-15T17:25:07.574+01:00Absolutely. What people seem to be forgetting is t...Absolutely. What people seem to be forgetting is that currently only the PM can dissolve parliament, so putting it in the hands of parliament should make the process more democratic.<br /><br />As for this talk about "banana republics" - does that make Scotland and Wales "Banana Parliaments"?Roshttp://random-veryrandom.blog.co.uknoreply@blogger.com