tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post3555337025256379000..comments2024-03-25T12:55:40.911+00:00Comments on Caron's Musings: Guardian gets it wrong again - Federal Party Election results are not some great rebellionAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-46055682779863800532010-11-16T15:06:09.510+00:002010-11-16T15:06:09.510+00:00To be honest, it's difficult to see any electi...To be honest, it's difficult to see any election result for the party's federal committees as a rebellion against anything for the simple reason that candidates are not allowed to campaign! The federal conference reps who vote for them largely have to go on name recognition and an A5 manifesto; we ordinary members only get the names!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11171985623642790407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-40390302933071943612010-11-15T22:09:36.124+00:002010-11-15T22:09:36.124+00:00I'd consider myself as an 'Orange Booker&#...I'd consider myself as an 'Orange Booker' (whatever that really means!) and put Tony Greaves as No.1<br /><br />Work that one out!crewegwynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-78704349885407032802010-11-15T18:38:54.377+00:002010-11-15T18:38:54.377+00:00William CB,
As one of the successful candidates i...William CB,<br /><br />As one of the successful candidates in these internal elections, I'd go along with any portrayal of the article as 'pretty lazy'. Because we're a democratic Party, we allow anyone to run, representing the full range of opinions, so it's hardly surprising that some of the successful candidates come from the 'social liberal' wing of the Party. That's as it should be.<br /><br />However, the Press have shown no interest in our internal democracy in the past, so the lack of research isn't wholly unexpected. As Caron points out, our election results are available for all to see, so there are no secrets.<br /><br />If there is one difference this year, it's that there were a lot more votes cast this year, an indication of greater interest than in the past.<br /><br />I see no sign of a divide, as you put it, between pro-Clegg and anti-Clegg factions, more the emergence of groups who want the leadership to be more robust in their dealings with the Tories.Mark Valladareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15773193846795037711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-71728812002483693302010-11-15T17:30:34.780+00:002010-11-15T17:30:34.780+00:00I have no reason to disagree with what you've ...I have no reason to disagree with what you've written here, but I would like to pose what I think are the two most interesting questions about the election.<br /><br />There clearly is a divide between Team Clegg and social liberals. Personally, I'm not sure what the best way is to characterise it. You could call it a divide of ideas (Orange Bookers vs social liberals), ideology (left vs right), society (Westminster party elite vs grassroots) or loyalty (Cleggists vs ???). Also, I couldn't say how deep the divide is.<br /><br />So the first question is, how do the elections affect the balance of power? Is there more or less now on the Clegg side of the divide?<br /><br />And the second question is, is the divide itself deeper than before, or not?<br /><br />The Guardian article may have been flawed, but it did address these questions.WilliamCBhttp://twitter.com/WilliamCBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-59403021652677256872010-11-15T16:08:43.602+00:002010-11-15T16:08:43.602+00:00I guess I am anti-Tory insofar as I am a Lib Dem a...I guess I am anti-Tory insofar as I am a Lib Dem and thus do not agree with Conservative or Labour etc policy more than I agree with our own.NoetiCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05403234052383312082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-36280729005378370592010-11-15T12:03:50.317+00:002010-11-15T12:03:50.317+00:00Yes, David Rendel is always top of the poll - or n...Yes, David Rendel is always top of the poll - or near to it. Indeed, I think his vote was lower this time than last time - which makes the Guardian story even more bonkers!Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.com