tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post4813670410741124305..comments2024-03-25T12:55:40.911+00:00Comments on Caron's Musings: SNP fail in Glasgow North EastAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-12963873462884847062009-11-13T19:02:01.091+00:002009-11-13T19:02:01.091+00:00AMW as we discussed on Twitter, the SNP didn't...AMW as we discussed on Twitter, the SNP didn't win Livingston when they had a fabulous candidate against the shocker that Labour put up although certainly they gained ground. Nor did they capitalise on the open goal that was Glenrothes.<br /><br />Stuart, you have a point on the left vote in 2005, but that part of Glasgow will usually have a reasonably high socialist vote. I also defer to your greater knowledge of engineering. I don't really care how they work as long as they do:-).<br /><br />Anon and Indy, my point is that the SNP should have done a lot better, not necessarily win, which was always going to be a long shot. <br /><br />I don't think most commentators would ever expect the Lib Dems to be challenging for a by-election victory in either Glasgow East or Glasgow North East. They did, quite reasonably, expect the SNP to put up a greater fight and as you said yourself, Indy, it wasn't a good result for you.<br /><br />We were within a few hundred votes of what was expected of us - you missed the mark by several thousand.<br /><br />There is, however, a challenge for everyone fighting Labour. They were absolutely brutal in their literature as a party with nothing positive to offer often is. We'll have to make sure that we deal with their nonsense properly with our own very positive messages.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-28443418368934511682009-11-13T15:19:21.867+00:002009-11-13T15:19:21.867+00:00Are you for real?
Yes it was a pretty crap resul...Are you for real?<br /><br />Yes it was a pretty crap result for the SNP but at least we came second, as expected.<br /><br />What happened to the Lib Dems?<br /><br />This is all getting a bit silly really. SNP fail to gain Glasgow North East from Labour would be a bit like Labour fail to gain Banff & Buchan from the SNP. Hardly a shock.Indyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04383904151475839441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-32883494001293811092009-11-13T15:06:18.414+00:002009-11-13T15:06:18.414+00:00Hi Caron,
It's strange how in your post lamba...Hi Caron,<br /><br />It's strange how in your post lambasting the SNP's poor performance you say that the SNP will try and make themselves feel better by having a go at the LibDem performance. Have a wee look in the mirror please.<br /><br />A very bad result for everyone except Labour and, possibly, the Tories.<br /><br />The thing about by-elections is that the SNP don't need them anymore and while the party of government (not the same thing as being the tail of a governing dog) they will always be vulnerable at them if the main opposition gets its act together.<br /><br />That said, like it or not, the SNP still increased its share of the vote.<br /><br />So, while the SNP certainly needs to look at its campaign tactics it is hardly suggestive that their overall strategy is wrong.<br /><br />That problem lies squarely with your lot I'm afraid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-36495949056011986282009-11-13T14:21:17.778+00:002009-11-13T14:21:17.778+00:00Hi Caron - I think the hard left vote in 2005 was ...Hi Caron - I think the hard left vote in 2005 was mainly Arthur Scargill's(?) Socialist Labour Party, who got over 4,000, as compared to a mere 47 last night.<br /><br />I don't think Michael Martin as speaker used the label 'Labour' on the 2005 ballot paper, so the thousands of votes garnered by the SLP probably came from people who thought they were voting Labour.<br /><br />On an even more pedantic note, I doubt if many juggernaut trucks use petrol engines, and diesels use compression rather than spark plugs to ignite the fuel ;0)Stuart Wintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02772436419630464325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-21293593546053692312009-11-13T13:41:24.565+00:002009-11-13T13:41:24.565+00:00Caron..
Okay I admit it was a very poor result fo...Caron..<br /><br />Okay I admit it was a very poor result for the SNP and I did tweet yesterday that they would win around 32%, okay I was way off.<br /><br />Couple of points though. The Libs came in on second place in 2005 for all of Glasgow. So as the second party of Glasgow (in UK terms) I would had thought the Libs would have won more than 2% of the vote for a UK seat.<br /><br />You say the result is not an endorsement for the SNP yet every poll (I ken I keep going on about polls) show the SNP are well out in front of Labour, most recent by 10% so although (and I have even said it on my blog) that the SNP have made some major mistakes, they are however still by far the most popular party.<br /><br />Another point around by-elections..<br /><br />lol you did cherry pick the Lib Dem wins, very naughty hee hee!!<br /><br />What about the SNP wins? Dundee, Kilbirnie,Milton and I think also in East Ayrshire oh and most recently Angus. <br />Hmm not a bad record for a party of power.<br /><br />Yes I agree a bad result for the SNP but if this by-election was held in Livingston with the same outcome, then I would had said it was curtains for the SNP.<br /><br />Still, 2%..wee shame ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com