tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post8394606431889740069..comments2024-03-25T12:55:40.911+00:00Comments on Caron's Musings: Everyday life under independence - Part 1. A new passportAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-7196542702471845262012-11-09T09:08:34.205+00:002012-11-09T09:08:34.205+00:00You moving to Wales, Caron?
I fail to get inter...You moving to Wales, Caron? <br /><br />I fail to get interested or bothered about the passport issue. We just went over to France to Disneyland Paris on the eurostar (never fly when you don't have, remember that, a far more important issue than passports) and passport control was literally a 30 second affair. If it is that easy to get to France why will it be hard to get to England?<br /><br />My relatives in Northern Ireland regularly cross the border into the Republic - a similar situation don't you think.<br /><br />I have work friends who live in Switzerland but work in France, or is it the other way around, I'm not sure and it doesn't matter.<br /><br />If there is independence, in 10 years time no one will care about the passport issue.<br /><br />There are more important things to think about in the independence debate than thisPaulhttp://www.setindarkness.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-82464137989184724362012-11-06T17:44:54.311+00:002012-11-06T17:44:54.311+00:00The sensible thing to do would be for everyone cur...The sensible thing to do would be for everyone currently resident in Scotland to be granted dual nationality (UK/Scotland) until they wanted to give one up, but people born afterwards would only get one or the other.<br /><br />It's not like they make much of a difference - we'd still have right to live and work in each other's countries, courtesy of the EU.<br /><br />But it's a mess, and the SNP should be answering these questions and not just blathering on about how it will all be fine.Richard Gadsdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10545595590359552775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-2722231479234433192012-11-06T14:12:17.628+00:002012-11-06T14:12:17.628+00:00Hello Caron.The key question to be asked is on cur...Hello Caron.The key question to be asked is on currency.If the Bank of England is not the lender of last resort where does that leave Scotland.will the snp launch a new central bank and currency.what happens when during negotiations with the eu if they insist on Scotland joining the euro.The eu euro members are moving towards greater fiscal and political union.this includes keeping the deficit under strict control.Will it be the snp policy to get greater fiscal controls for Scotland just to hand them over to Brussels.the idea that Scotland would continue using sterling without BoE as lender of last resort is a joke .You would see a run on the banks north of the new border as no one could depend on an independent Scotland's financial institutions.also an independent Scotland would need its own financial regulator it could not use the rest of the uks as the snp currently plansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-70589474232163207742012-11-06T12:46:35.329+00:002012-11-06T12:46:35.329+00:00Many place won't accept Young Scot cards. Mos...Many place won't accept Young Scot cards. Mostly pubs and clubs as far as I can make out but these places will have somewhat greater importance to young people than they will to us ;-)<br /><br />Martin's had to carry his passport with him since he turned 18 to be sure he's got all possibilities covered.Allan Heronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-47703558259301585692012-11-06T12:45:28.859+00:002012-11-06T12:45:28.859+00:00Allan Heron
I think you will find that the media ...Allan Heron<br /><br />I think you will find that the media publishes pro-union nonsense stories much more readily than it publishes pro-independence stories, or rebuttals of incredible anti-independence stories. After another 2 years I expect these nonsenses will be less than convincing.<br /><br />Consider as an example, the recent dredging up of an 18 year old video from Van Rumpoy attacking "separatism". No mention either that his party is being thoroughly whupped by Flanders nationalists.<br /><br />Tell me, does anyone believe that if Belgium at the heart of Europe splits, they will suffer all-or any- of the problems threatened to Scotland? Let's live in the real world.JPJ2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-21746918593458451332012-11-06T12:41:27.773+00:002012-11-06T12:41:27.773+00:00I was surprised that I got worked up about it to t...I was surprised that I got worked up about it to that extent, to be honest. But it is a big thing. A friend of mine said the other week that he wanted his wife and him to have the same nationality - and they wouldn't under indy.<br /><br />And Anna says she wants to live in the same country where Doctor Who is made...<br /><br />Allan, do Young Scot cards not count as proof of ID? <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-9416484379194800722012-11-06T12:27:42.326+00:002012-11-06T12:27:42.326+00:00Must say that I find it hard to get worked up abou...Must say that I find it hard to get worked up about the possibility of needing a passport to get into the United Kingdom should Scotland vote for independence. Likewise all the overly sentimental stuff about family members being born in different parts of the United Kingdom. <br /><br />Worth noting though that for young people many places will only accept either a driving license or a passport as proof of identity. Both of these are expensive if you have no reason to have them other than for this purpose. <br /><br />JPJ2 - it really is up to the Yes Campaign and the SNP government to make and sustain their own arguments. If they (and, perhaps, you) think that you're going to convince and/or convert anyone by not providing answers in this (and other) matters then you're going to be very, very disappointed in 2014. Allan Heronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-6317587882245310802012-11-06T12:25:08.768+00:002012-11-06T12:25:08.768+00:00A thought this time on the passport issue. Here is...A thought this time on the passport issue. Here is a fact-not a speculation, a fact.<br /><br />My late Irish mother left Ireland in 1944 and came to England to work to be near my late father (yes, she actually left neutral Ireland and worked in a munitions factory).<br /><br />She then lived in Scotland from 1947 until her death in 2005 (voting SNP from the mid-60s).<br /><br />As she never left the British Isles, she never had need of a passport either Irish or British. She travelled backwards and forward to the Irish republic many time over many decades and never/ever required a passport to vist the country of her birth in spite of it having separated violently from the UK.<br /><br />Incidentally, as her son, as well as my UK passport, I am entitled on application to have an Irish passport as well.<br /><br />Perhaps you are not scaremongering, but your scenarios are typically IMPROBABLE.JPJ2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-82952200010832934902012-11-06T12:15:11.076+00:002012-11-06T12:15:11.076+00:00Hmmm, yes, if the advice wasn't to the SNP'...Hmmm, yes, if the advice wasn't to the SNP's liking, I am sure that they would just accept it without question...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34128264.post-72043110272957697492012-11-06T12:08:36.617+00:002012-11-06T12:08:36.617+00:00As the UK Government is the member state, and ther...As the UK Government is the member state, and therefore the entity formally entitled to request advice on EU issues, why doesn't Rennie pick up the phone to Clegg and ask hime to ensure that the relevant advice is provided?<br /><br />Why instead do the Lib Dems wallow unnecessarily in negative speculations about how an independent Scotland would be treated?JPJ2noreply@blogger.com